Krillin. In the name of fairness, this entry pits Krillin against arguably his worst enemy without any beneficial conditions. He has also become quite rusty due to this as he has “apparently" stopped training. It’s almost as if Akira Toriyama enjoys writing Vegeta as a bit of a gag character from time to time. Yet, he somehow managed to surpass the real Goku and Vegeta. Vegeta strives to surpass Kakarot. Each Cell Junior was about as strong as a Super Saiyan. Krillin beats Kaguya. If he saw Gohan take on Super Buu, he would certainly eat his words from the Dabura fight. However, after seeing his son and the others in trouble, he rushes in to help. According to Akira Toriyama (the creator of the series), Krillin is the strongest human. In fact, Vegeta’s Super Saiyan forms are usually more powerful than Goku’s, but they are always developed after Goku's initial ascent. DarthAya44: 5: 12/11 3:39PM: Here is evidence of Super Buu being stronger than Kid Buu. This might even bring back memories of when a Great Ape Gohan stomped Vegeta. Android 18 shot down that confidence with relative ease. He has the power and capabilities to do some serious damage to the planet as that of a nuclear atomic bomb. Baby Vegeta is a stupid name. Why not start things off with the most obvious entry? He struggled against Fat Buu and resorted to blowing himself up. Vegeta was kind enough to put him out of his misery. Oozaru Vegeta clocks in at 180,000 so unless Krillin cuts his tail, which he failed to do in the Saiyan Saga, he'd lose. Actually, they were a little bit better since they managed to beat the likes of Vegeta, Goku, and Trunks. Both Zamasu and Goku Black were able to outclass Vegeta. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. But when it came to the final boss, he didn’t stand a chance. Vegeta and Gotenks don’t fight, but there would be no contest if they did. However, he uses up too much energy and falls unconscious after saving many lives. Vegeta could not hurt her in their fight, that's cannon material, these guys could. Vegeta can try all he might, but he’s no match for Beerus’ assistant. Vegeta was not able to scratch Omega Shenron at all. Vegeta is quite lucky he didn’t have to fight Kefla. Why would you let Cell transform? That would make the fight a cakewalk for Gotenks. The first is all of the characters that have actually beat Vegeta in a fight. Here are five moves stronger and five moves weaker than Vegeta's Final Flash. Alright, gonna do some math and estimation that starts with one fact. I don’t blame him as Goku had to use his Super Saiyan 3 form to finally win. Even though Vegeta was stronger, there was nothing he could do about immortality. That’s why in Dragon Ball Super she was able to easily knock Vegeta into the distance. Krillin is stronger than Yamcha at the start of DBZ. Such is life for the Prince. Both Goku and Vegeta train with Whis. They do manage to survive until Goku arrives, but barely. He does manage to save a bunch of people from a wayward blast from the beast. Vegeta fought against several forms of Majin Buu and it always ended with his loss. He even manages to see through one of Jiren’s attacks and get a few punches in. He turned out to be stronger than expected and was even the last man standing at the Tournament of Power. It was strange seeing Vegeta unwilling to fight and give up without trying. Georgie-Porgie: 11: 12/17 8:07AM: This review tears Vegeta a new one. Press J to jump to the feed. The pink blob survived the attack and lived to fight another day. Everytime he gets stronger, a new, more powerful villain shows up to ruin his day. Sign Up for free (or Log In if you already have an account) to be able to post messages, change how messages are displayed, and view media in posts. While he does sway the final struggle in Gohan’s favor with a Ki blast, there’s no forgetting his huge loss. They both attack at the same time but to no avail. View source. Vegeta did not stand a chance against Frieza during the Namek arc. Now, we do have a few disclaimers for the list. Once the hero has outgrown their "Krillin," or the weaker "best friend" character, it's time for the Vegeta to step up to the plate. Vegeta beat Dodoria pretty quickly and was about to do the same against Zarbon. He could’ve easily won the fight had he decided not to do that. Vegeta has always been stronger than Goku, but only with them at the same level.On the Sayan saga, when they fought on their base form, Goku needed th He somehow managed to live and heal himself. Krillin. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Do you have any sources for this, because I can tell you this is definitely not a fact. He is not really a baby!!! It’s only because of Gohan that they made it out alive. Next the other Z-fighter had training from Kaiosama where only Krillin got a power boost tha was not enough to fight the Ginyu Force but afterwards he trained, suppasing Yamcha, and equal to Tien without Kaio's training. Vegeta and Goku try to attack Jiren together and it ends really badly for both of them. Krillin as we know him is stronger than any human ever lived. In the Android Saga, Yamcha was as strong as base Goku at the end of the Frieza saga. However, it’s clear that Android 18 is still by far stronger than Krillin as she is shown to be worried about him and the episode (84) makes it clear that she is still significantly stronger than Krillin. However, later on, they seem to have disappeared completely, making the inside of his eyes the same color as his skin. However, he can’t deny the fact that he came close to passing during his first attempt. Himself, Gohan, and Krillin have a difficult fight against him. Krillin is above Yamcha, but not by enough to matter for this logic train. Krillin can't be stronger than Tien. But that ends with him being pushed aside with ease and Gohan getting his left arm. Vegeta gets angry after Beerus slaps Bulma and becomes stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku. Not only is Whis strong, but he’s able to react without thinking. Frost is most likely stronger than base Vegeta and Goku, since Vegeta still felt the need to use SSJ just to finish Frost off. Vegeta was stronger than the base form of Android 13, 14, and 15. Zamasu had an unfair advantage since he wished for immortality. Super Saiyan 3 Goku wasn’t enough, so Vegeta wasn’t going to stand a chance. By scaling Frost should be stronger than RoF FF Frieza. He does eventually get knocked out by the Pride Trooper. That’s the thing with him. Oh, Vegeta. Out of the 25 fighters most have indeed managed to beat Vegeta in a fight. There is no denying that Vegeta is one of the strongest characters in the Dragon Ball franchise but there are at least 25 fighters who are stronger! Alright, gonna do some math and estimation that starts with one fact. 1. To Vegeta’s credit, he does put up the best fight out of the Z-Fighters (minus Goku). That would make the fight a cakewalk for Gotenks. This is Vegeta’s life story in a nutshell. Ultimately, it was the power of fusion that allowed Goku and Vegeta to win. Another Dragon Ball movie, another day of Vegeta getting whooped. Vegeta and Goku had to fuse in order to finally gain an advantage. In contrast, Vegeta During the Saiyan saga has a base power level of 18,000 and 180,000 in great ape form. Krillin is way stronger than the Vegeta that is trying to bust the planet against Goku. Gotenks is able to transform into a Super Saiyan 3. www.cbr.com CBR Exclusives He may put up a good fight because of his strong will, but that’s about all he can muster against a vastly superior foe. Not that this form would’ve helped as Goku wasn’t able to win on his own either. Why Is Goku stronger than vegeta. That begs the question, why hasn’t Goku taught Vegeta how to use the Kaio-Ken? His form is stronger than Goku’s too. Krillin would destroy Vegeta. He stomped semi-perfect Cell but stood no chance against the Perfect form. Is Android 18 stronger than Krillin? In contrast, Vegeta During the Saiyan saga has a base power level of 18,000 and 180,000 in great ape form. Because he got his potential unlocked as a child with the Ultra Divine Water. His Final Flash attack was impressive but wasn’t able to finish the job. As Dragon Ball’s main character, it’s only natural Goku be stronger than his rivals, but Vegeta actually has surpassed him on occasion. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but the Prince of all Saiyans deserves a little better. When Krillin fought cell (1st form) krillin took a lot of damage against cell and cell thought to him self that he had to be careful. If Super Saiyan 3 wasn’t enough, then Vegeta was never going to put up a good fight. Again I did not say he was stronger than Tien. The fight doesn’t last long since he completely outclasses Vegeta in every regard. For this category, it’s only fair to consider Vegeta’s strength at that time. But that was quite a long time back. He was able to hold his own during Frieza’s base form, but after that, it was all downhill. I think Toriyama also called Krillin the strongest human at some point. With these hypothetical comparisons, it’s hard to definitely say that Vegeta would lose. Or was Gohan's peak of power also at the same time as Krillin because his potential was unlocked as well? No chance of even hoping for victory. Goku - regularly abandons his friends and Krillin - punched Krillin in the face in Super-Didn't avenge Krillin the 1000s of times he's died or turned to stone.-Doesn't even consider Krillin for the Top-Calls Krillin weak and says he's a … She completely humiliated him and was far too powerful. It would’ve ended with him being knocked off the tournament arena way earlier than anticipated. Krillin stomps. Perhaps Vegeta himself is too proud to accept such help in the first place. In the fights they have had, Vegeta has done quite well against Goku. Is Vegeta not actually a SSB and DBS is his dream of getting strong because his power was drawn past his limits by Babidi? During his training with Goku under Ma… In DBZ it was stated that Krillin was the strongest human fighter. It was sad watching him get beat by Frieza after making such a bold (and incorrect) claim. Origins: Dragon Ball. While there is a 30-minute time limit, that’s more than enough for Gotenks to beat Vegeta. Vegeta also launched a rage-fuelled attack against Super Perfect Cell. I disagree. Krillin is not naturally bald; due to his original monastic training, he merely shaves his head and waxes it. Vegeta was still stuck on Super Saiyan 2 and weaker than Fat Buu. Then either Roshi or Tien. Could mean a lot of things though, it could have been an offhand comment to Toriyama. Janemba’s final form resulted in a being stronger than Majin Buu. There is really no proof Krillin is much stronger than Vegeta was. Krillin would still destroy Vegeta at the end of the Namek saga who only was still weaker than Goku. It happens again in the Android Saga when Android 18 shows up after he blasts Android 19. Gohan and Android 17 next. Krillin From Dragon Ball Z The Tournament Of Power. One of the most iconic anime match-ups. I think a stronger, faster Krillin could manage it. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. This is a list of 25 characters that can defeat Vegeta in a 1-vs-1 fight. Vegeta was so shocked at first, he completely lost the will to fight. This was one of Vegeta’s biggest mistakes. It was an admirable effort on his part, but not enough. Until he ran into Recoome from the Ginyu Force. It wouldn’t be right to compare Cell Saga Vegeta with Saiyan Saga Goku. I don't know how much stronger Vegeta becomes as a great ape but Krillin is the last human Vegeta wants to see as a great ape. Krillin is Stronger than a Super Saiyan? For comparative standards, we are comparing all moves to Vegeta's use of the Final Flash against Perfect Cell before the Cell Games. 2 words...senzu beans. Bojack’s strength would be close to that of Perfect Cell, putting him above Vegeta’s league. Goku Black was just Zamasu in Goku’s body. Which really puts into perspective Vegeta’s lack of power during the Cell Games. Hopefully, he gets a better role in the Dragon Ball Super movie. Another movie villain in the same vein as Broly and Bojack, but he’s the original. 1. 2. I don't think it's fair to definitively say Tien is stronger. Beerus and Vegeta have a small fight during the Battle of Gods arc. Although he does get his moment during the final struggle. Krillin fought with vegeta, nappa, freeza, cell, buu, etc and yamcha didn't fight nearly anybody. Though seeing as how Roshi did wreck Tien then it should be him. Goku is stronger than Vegeta because Goku has ascended to Super Saiyan 3 something that Vegeta never achieved unless you played the video games. He isn’t able to fight back at all. He gets hit with a fairly powerful attack. Krillin. In fact, this is probably one of the biggest debates among fans today. Back to Vegeta. What made things worse for him was that he claimed to be a Super Saiyan. Here are 15 Dragon Ball characters stronger than Vegeta (and 15 strange ones who aren’t)! Two Super Saiyan 4 warriors weren’t enough to take this guy down. All things considered, it would seem that though Krillin's power is getting further and further away from Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan, he's managed to keep in-pace with most of the Dragon Ball supporting characters, not allowing himself to be left too far behind. While there is a 30-minute time limit, that’s more than enough for Gotenks to beat Vegeta. Vegeta tried his best against Hirudegarn but falls well short. Although it doesn’t take long for Vegeta to become stronger and restore order to his sanity. Tien and Krillin; no although they both have attacks that could do serious damage they’re still not strong enough to say they could beat Namek Freeza. Usually, something happens to prevent them from coming to a conclusion. Vegeta fought bravely, but his strength wasn’t enough to fight Jiren. Then, the latter transforms into an ugly form. At this point, it’s fair to say that Vegeta would’ve lost even if he mastered Ultra Instinct. He also gained the strength needed to leave Vegeta on the verge of perishing. He would easily win a battle against Vegeta since his strength surpasses that of a Super Saiyan 3. In fact, Vegeta actually seems to lose a lot of fights over the course of the various Dragon Ball shows. Now, the question is, can Arale beat King Zeno as well? Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. Vegeta doesn’t actually do that bad. The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. Even when the odds are against him, he manages to keep at it until he can’t get up. He possibly becomes stronger than Saiyan Saga Vegeta after his fat namek guy buff. Android 18: Wait a minute! Androids 18 and 17 are both human, and both stronger than Krillin. Of course, we all know how the rest of the story goes. These are the most obvious entries as they have clearly managed to defeat him in combat. Piccolo. His Super Saiyan Rose transformation made the relatively new Super Saiyan Blue look outdated and useless. Hit uses his time skip to break through Vegeta’s defences and knock him out. Super Android 13 wrecks the entire Z-Fighters squad and leaves them all on the brink of perishing. And yet he found a way to buy Goku enough time to charge a Spirit Bomb. Hit and Vegeta battle during the Universe 6 vs Universe 7 arc. Vegeta gets a power boost after the battle and gets his revenge against Zarbon. While true, claiming Dragon Ball Super's Krillin is stronger than pre-Namek Vegeta barely qualifies as a compliment. Kefla doesn’t battle Vegeta, but she’s on a completely different level. The other factor is people who could beat Vegeta in a fight if there was one. However, once the fusion was over, so was their ability to fight back. This allows him to move at extremely high speeds and dodge most conventional attacks. The only concession he gets was that Goku was right there beside him getting beat as well. Now, you should be reminded that the prisoners from the Moro corps (so likely weaker than those Tien and Krillin are fighting) after being powered up, were able trade blows with Base Goku and Vegeta, and then 2 of them went also against SSJ Goku enad SSJ Veggy (albeit they were drained). While there are many moves weaker than the great planet-destroying technique there are also a few stronger as well. If Vegeta doesn't go Oozaru then Krillin is way too strong for him, if he does however Krillin probably can't win. Or as this list shows, 26th strongest in the Dragon Ball world. It’s evidence of his astounding spirit and determination. More: Dragon Ball Super's Gohan Is Much Stronger Than You Think Arale is a gag character and her strength can be whatever the writer wants it to be at any time. Still, Vegeta gets the last laugh as he survived and Cooler didn’t. However, Beerus was only having fun. I don't really care a whole bunch for this Tien and Krillin debate but the latter is clearly the stronger of the two. The thing is, Goku and Vegeta have never had a proper 1-vs-1 fight to the end. When Gohan gets his potential unlocked, he instantly becomes the strongest fighter in the Majin Buu arc. Usually adversarial, the "Vegeta" is a rival who slowly works their way up to frenemy status they -- but usually he -- tries to surpass the hero's level of power. Among Dragon Ball Z fans, there's a pretty fierce debate over whether Krillin is actually stronger than Tien. He was able to beat them with one hit per Cell Junior. If he got any stronger after that it wouldn't have been a large leap. To add insult to injury, Goku actually puts up a decent fight thanks to his Kaio-Ken. Krillin is above Yamcha, but not by enough to matter for this logic train. Including the self-proclaimed strongest in the world. History Talk (0) Comments Share. Goku, Gohan, Future Trunks, Vegeta, and Piccolo were unable to even scratch the Legendary Super Saiyan. In the Android Saga, Yamcha was as strong as base Goku at the end of the Frieza saga. Vegeta himself remarks that you should never fight a gag character since you can never win. Which is fair considering Goku had to resort to another Spirit Bomb. If Vegeta challenged Cooler by himself, the only guarantee was going to be his defeat. He had finally become a Super Saiyan and was temporarily stronger than Goku. Fanboi: 347: 12/15 3:02PM: List people stronger than krillin: AntiNoob: 10: 12/8 9:20PM Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! Arale could even defeat Jiren or Beerus if that’s what the writers wanted, so Vegeta is nothing. In this video we are analyzing the reasons why Vegeta is Stronger than Goku currently. 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He had just finished destroying Android 19 and was full of confidence. And since he was already in Other World, he would’be had nowhere else to run. But Krillin was the only person that could have killed Nappa if not for Vegeta's inteference. Most famously, he purposefully held back his Super Saiyan 3 form against Majin Vegeta. Vegeta was completely destroyed after Freiza's numerous transformations. There’s no doubt that Vegeta is one of the strongest fighters from the Dragon Ball franchise. So it wasn’t all bad for Vegeta, but he’s still no match for the shadow dragon. However, that's not an accurate representation of his power. Broly proved to be a greater threat than Bojack since he single-handedly fought the strongest heroes at once. He could barely stand up against him. He'll come close, but, ultimately, there's no contending with a Main Character. Even though he did have to team up with Goku to do it, Vegeta played an integral role in the battle. On his own, Vegeta would’ve met his demise. At this point, he is yet to attain the Super Saiyan 4 transformation, so he’s not able to match Super Android 17. We’re going to consider two main factors. Vegeta and Gotenks don’t fight, but there would be no contest if they did. Yeah what I believe is not that Vegeta was 'stronger than Goku', but rather had a stronger base form than Goku at that point in time, while Goku relied too much on the kaioken. Krillin has six small dots on his forehead and a monk-like orange gi as a child. of 5; Next ; Last ; You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. Her overwhelming strength catches Jiren’s attention during his meditation. Android 18. Krillin along with his long time friend Goku went through some intense training at a very young age in Dragon Ball. He simply can’t keep up with Whis and thus will easily be defeated. Krillin's last known power level was 75,000 which was after he had his potential unlocked, thus nearing the peak of his power. As strong as he is, Android 17 won't quite be at the level of characters like Goku, Vegeta, and Frieza. She even forces Goku into his Ultra Instinct state which he uses to win the fight. There’s no way Vegeta would’ve lasted long against Meta-Cooler without Goku. Piccolo; Hell yes, when he fused with Kami he was able to fight Android 17 evenly, who is stronger than 18; who wrecked Super Sayain Vegeta easily. He may have been beat, but he fought with gusto. In DBS, he is living a peaceful and carefree life. The powercreep is too much in Cell Saga for Vegeta. ssgvegeto 2 years ago #2 Krillin was always stronger, but Tien's Tri-Beam could stun Krillin because Tien managed to stun Semi-Perfect Cell despite the huge power gap. Except, he’s not very useful against Bojack. It took several moments for Vegeta to finally work up the courage to fight back. He tried his best, but Janemba’s teleportation abilities and power were too great. Vegeta would not enter this fight unless he know he would win, and Vegeta was stronger than Initial Form Frieza. You are indeed where you belong. His form is stronger than Goku’s too. Goku, Vegeta and Frieza are the three at the top. There are people on both sides, but the general consensus is that Krillin is the strongest human. Krillin vs. Tien is hard because we never see a good side by side battle of them in DBZ except vs Nappa. Is Vegeta stronger than Goku anymore? As an adult, he is still short, standing at only 5 feet tall.Earlier on in the series, Krillin had eye whites. A sign of his growth as a person. He could be seen chilling at home watching TV, which is strange for the Saiyan. The Z-Fighters had a hard time of it against them. On his own though? At first, it even seems that Vegeta has forced Beerus to take the fight seriously. The two of them barely managed to beat him while fighting together. This puts Krillin stronger than third form Frieza and base Goku at the end of the saga, putting Krillin's power level above 3,000,000. Alrighty guys it is Qaaman here today and in this video I argue one of the biggest elements in the dragon ball z series. It seems one-sided, as Vegeta is always vowing to surpass Goku, but the truth is: Vegeta was stronger than Goku in their first encounter. Gotenks is able to transform into a Super Saiyan 3. Goku is Vegeta’s rival, however the same does not hold true in reverse. Of course, it was unrealistic to expect Vegeta to beat Jiren. At this point, Vegeta is dejected and has given up on fighting. After tanking Vegeta’s attacks, he launches a counterattack. This fight catches Vegeta at a bad time. He even unlocks a new power-up for his Super Saiyan Blue transformations. After beating Dodoria and Zarbon, Vegeta was feeling pretty confident. And Vegeta gets demolished with ease. Which is strange since even Gotenks or Gohan couldn’t win, despite being stronger. However, that doesn’t mean he’s excused from getting wrecked by some of the other characters. A divisive entry, but still a valid one. It’s unfair, but the fact is Zamasu can now beat Vegeta, despite being weaker. Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. | Dragon Ball Super Ep.84 - Reaction and Commentary ... Goku and Vegeta meet Beerus, Goku vs Beerus, Beerus's visit to … However, we’ve chosen characters that are much stronger than him. Another embarrassing moment for the Prince of all Saiyans. on his way to planet namek Goku was just killing himself and devouring senzu beans. However, Goku always has the upper hand and is one step ahead. Does that mean that Goku's peak of power is only in the hundreds? It all culminated with a powerful kick that dislocated Vegeta’s arm and probably broke a few bones. 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